More on Elizabeth Mary Johnston

Elizabeth Mary Johnston was born in 1923. Her birth registration reads:

Birth of Elizabeth Mary Johnston 2 Apr 1923

1923-04-15 BIR Elizabeth Mary Johnstone child of John Johnstone + Elizabeth Wright [[N728-clip]]

1923 Births in the District of Gorbals in the Burgh of Glasgow. Page 170. Item 510
Elizabeth Mary Johnston [born] 2 April 1923 [at] 6h am [at] 76 Commerce Street, Glasgow [daughter of] John Johnston, Hammerman [and] Elizabeth Johnston, MS Wright [who were married] 28 Mar 1921 Milton District, Glasgow

Birth of Elizabeth Mary Johnston 2 Apr 1923 at 76 Commerce Street, Glasgow, Scotland’s People, (1923 JOHNSTON, ELIZABETH MARY (Statutory registers Births 644/17 510)

Baptism of Elizabeth Mary Johnston 15 Apr 1923

Elizabeth was baptised on 15 Apr 1923 at St John the Evangelist, Portugal Street, Gorbals, Glasgow

1923-04-15 BIR BAP Elizabeth Mary Johnstone child of John Johnstone + Elizabeth Wright [[N431-clip]]

St John the Evangelist, Portugal Street, Baptismal Register
Elizabeth Mary Johnstone [born at] 76 Commerce (Mixed) [on] 02 Apr 1923 [baptised] 15 Apr 1923 [child of] John and Elizabeth Johnstone (Prot) [MS] Wright [sponsors] James Johnstone [and] Mary Johnstone
a note later written in says that she married John McDonald Neil at St Aloysius, Springburn 19 Jun 1942

Baptism of Elizabeth Mary Johnston 15 Apr 1923 at St John the Evangelist, Portugal Street, Gorbals, Glasgow, Find My Past, (Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms Archive Ref MP/92/1/2/7 Record ID SCOT/RC/BAP2/0516179)

The above shows that John Johnston was a protestant and Elizabeth Johnston or Wright was a Catholic. They were married in 1921.

The Marriage of John Johnston and Elizabeth Wright 2 Mar 1921

Elizabeth Mary Johnston was born in 1923. Her birth registration reads:

1921-03-02 MAR John Johnston + Elizabeth Wright, Milton, Glasgow [[N729-clip]]

1921 JOHNSTON, JOHN (Statutory registers Marriages 644/9 122 Page 56
1921 Marriages in the District of Milton in the Burgh of Glasgow Page 56 Item 112
On the 2 day of March 1921 at 141 West Nile Street, Glasgow. By Declaration in the Presence of James Johnston, Hammerman and Agnes Brownlie or Cowan [were married] Signed John Johnston, Hammerman, Bachelor [aged] 27 [usual residence] 81 Govanhill Street, Glasgow. [son of] James Johnston, Carter [and] Mary Johnston, M.S. Hiddleston (Deceased)
AND Signed: Elizabeth Wright, Domestic Servant, Spinster [aged] 25 [usual residence] 35 Nelson Street, Glasgow. [daughter of] William Wright, Carter [and] Elizabeth Wright, M.S. Lindsay.
Warrant of Sheriff Substitute of Lanarkshire dated 2nd March 1921 [Registered] 4th March 1921 at Glasgow. Thos McKay, Registrar.

Marriage of John Johnston and Elizabeth Wright 2 Mar 1921 at 141 West Nile Street, Glasgow, Scotland’s People, (1921 JOHNSTON, JOHN (Statutory registers Marriages 644/9 122 Page 56)

The above shows that John Johnston was a protestant and Elizabeth Johnston or Wright was a Catholic. They were married in 1921.

Here we see that the couple were married by declaration. Scotland’s People says of this:

“Until the mid-twentieth century most people in Scotland were married by a minister, in a ‘regular’ marriage.  This involved banns being read on three consecutive Sundays at the parish church. However, a minority were wed by ‘irregular’ marriage, in which a man and a woman made a declaration in front of two witnesses, hence the other name ‘marriage by declaration’.  By showing proofs of their marriage the parties could obtain a warrant of a sheriff or sheriff substitute to have the marriage registered by the local registrar.  Churches disagreed with these marriages in principle, but accepted them for fear that couples would otherwise ‘live in sin’.
There are fascinating stories behind some of the irregular marriages before the law changed on 1 July 1940, when they were no longer legal.  From that date Scottish registrars were permitted to perform civil marriages for the first time, under the Marriage (Scotland) Act 1939. “
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/article/irregular-marriage-scotland

I have not looked into any brothers or sisters for Elizabeth Mary Johnston. I repeat the details of her marriage to John McDonald Neil here for the sake of completeness.

Marriage of John McDonald Neil and  Elizabeth Mary Johnston 29 June 1942 at St. Aloysius Church, Springburn

1942-06-19 MAR John McDonald Neil + Mary Elizabeth Johnston [[N085a-clip]]

Marriages in the District of Springburn in the Burgh of Glasgow [Page 75]
“On 19th June 1942 at St. Aloysius Church, Springburn, Glasgow After Publication according to the Forms of the Roman Catholic Church [were married] John McDonald Neil [signed] John Neil Sergeant, Cameron Highlanders, bachelor [aged] 23, now engaged in War Service. [parents] Timothy Neil, railway labourer, (deceased) [and] Margaret Neil M.S. McDonald.
[and]
Elizabeth Mary Johnston [signed] Elizabeth M Johnston, bolt screwing machinist (spinster) [aged] 19 [usual residence] 46 Barcaple Street, Glasgow. [parents] John Johnston, hammerman [and] Elizabeth Lindsay Johnson M.S. Wright.
[signed] Denis McBeaty (?) Rector St. Aloysius Church, Springburn [signed] John Connor, 126 Wellfield Street, Glasgow [witness] Catherine McGreachy (?), 94 Mansion Street, Glasgow [witness] [Registered] 25 June 1945 at Glasgow. John Little Assistant Registrar.”

Marriage of John McDonald Neil, Scotland’s People, Scotland Statutory Registers Marriages 1942 NEIL, JOHN MCDONALD (Statutory registers Marriages 644/5 149)

The John Connor who is a witness here is almost certainly the John Connor who married Susan Logan Neil, John McDonald Neil’s aunt and sister to his father Timothy Chrystal Neil. Susan died at 126 Wellfield Street, Glasgow 14 November 1964. John Connor died before her. Incidentally, John’s father had also died at Wellfield Street but at number 114 but that was long before, in 1935.

John would have undoubtedly had to return to his regiment shortly after his marriage and, although we might expect a child would follow, in fact, none seems to have. We can only guess how this marriage went but both my own research and the research I commissioned many years ago from the Scots Ancestry Research Society could find no record of any children of this marriage between 1942 and 1948. I describe some of my findings about Elizabeth Mary Johnson and her family in a sub-page of this site.

In the main narrative of the Neil family, I have discussed the war service of John – in as far as I know it – but I know nothing about Elizabeth. She is a bolt-screwing machinist at her marriage to John and this would have been a typical heavy industry occupation for a woman during the war. In the main narrative we have outlined her divorce from John but, again, I repeat it here for the sake of completness.

The Divorce of Elizabeth Mary Johnston and John McDonald Neil 1 1 Nov 1949

Divorce for ordinary people was no easy thing until modernising legislation made it possible. The Matrimonial Causes Act 1937 had made divorce for ordinary men and in particular women easier by introducing three further grounds for divorce in addition to those established prior to that. These were cruelty, desertion for at least three years, and incurable insanity. Additionally, it should be remembered that it was not until 1949 that the “Legal Aid and Advice Act” provided legal aid for couples wishing to divorce who could not afford legal fees.
The social upheavals of the war and the changing roles of men and women in society led to a great increase in failed marriages and this is probably why this divorce took place then. I suppose if a split had happened shortly after the marriage we would not expect any children to come of it but they could not move on until divorce became a possibility. In John and Elizabeth’s case, the birth of John’s son, Colin, to Margaret Cunningham Ramsay took place three years before John’s divorce came through. It is clear that the action was brought “at the instance of Elizabeth Mary Johnston or Neil” As we saw above, the marriage registration of John and Elizabeth had a margin note mentioning an entry in the Register of Corrected Entries and the entry referred to is this one.

1949-11-11 DIV  John McDonald Neil + Mary Elizabeth Johnston [[N085b-clip]]

Register of Corrected Entries for the District of Springburn in the Burgh of Glasgow Vol 5 Page 126
Register of Marriages for the District of Springburn in the Burgh of Glasgow for the year 1942 – Decree of Divorce was pronounced by Lord Guthrie. Ordinary, in an action at the instance of Elizabeth Mary Johnston or Neil, care of Johnston, 46 Barcaple Street, Springburn, Glasgow, against John McDonald Neil, 14 Auchenraith Camp, Bothwell
The above insertion is made under the direction of the 5th Section of the Act 18 and 19 Vict. c. 29
At Glasgow 16 November 1949
??? Donaldson
Registrar

Divorce of John McDonald Neil and Elizabeth Mary Neil or Johnston 11 Nov 1949. Scotland’s People, 1949 NEIL, JOHN MCDONALD (Statutory registers Corrected Entries 644/ 05 005 126) (RCE)

For a long time I though that my father had abandoned his first wife but, on further scrutiny, it occurred to me that it could just have easily been the other way around and he may have been the recipient of a “Dear John” letter; it turned out to be a bit of a close thing but Elizabeth beat my father to remarriage by fifteen days! She married John Baird Vaughan on 2 December 1949 and John McDonald Neil married Margaret Cunningham Ramsay on 17 December 1949! I go into more detail on Elizabeth’s remarriage in the sub-page devoted to the Johnston family

Marriage of Elizabeth Mary Johnston and John Baird Vaughan 2 Dec 1949 at Possilpark Register Office

I looked up this entry on a recent trip to Hawick where I could take advantage of the Scotland’s People FamilySearch facilities at the the Heritage Hub

1949-12-02 MAR Elizabeth Mary Johnston + John Baird Vaughan [[N675-clip]]

1949 MARRIAGES in the of District of Possilpark, in the Burgh of Glasgow Page 280 Item 560
2 December 1949 After Publication in the Office of the Registrar for the District of Possilpark, Glasgow.
In the presence of the said Registrar in Accordance with the Marriage (Scotland) Act Oct 1939 [were married]
John Baird Vaughan, Signed John Vaughan, Restauranteer, (Bachelor) [aged] 30. [Usual Residence] 59 Kenmore Avenue, Bishopbriggs [son of] Patrick James Vaughan, House Painter,(Retired) [and] Charlotte Vaughan MS Baird
AND
Elizabeth Johnston, Signed Elizabeth Johnston, Formerly married to John Neil against whom she obtained a Decree of Divorce [aged] 26 [usual residence] 46 Barcaple Street, Glasgow. [daughter of] John Johnston, Hammerman [and] Elizabeth Johnston MS Wright
Signed W. S Gillespie,Registrar. Signed James Johnston,46 Barcaple Street, Glasgow,(Witness)
Signed K Vaughan, 59 Kenmore Avenue, Bishopbriggs, (Witness)
Registered 2 December 1949 at Glasgow. W.S. Gillespie Registrar

Marriage of Elizabeth Mary Johnston and John Baird Vaughan 2 Dec 1949 at Possilpark Register Office, Scotland Statutory Registers Marriages 1949 JOHNSTON, ELIZABETH (Statutory registers, Marriages 644/11 560))

Some Speculation on Elizabeth’s Extended Family

John Baird Vaughan was born in 1919 and there is a RD Garnethill entry that is probably him. I could go into his family but It seems fairly low priority but I was curious about how Elizabeth fared in this new marriage. Her death registration (see below) had a P Carberry as her daughter so I looked for a Vaughan marrying a Carberry and found the following

Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name
VAUGHAN PATRICIA CARBERRY CHARLES LOWER 1975 560 / 92 Bishopbriggs

At the moment I have not added this to my FH file but having a Patricia Vaughan to look for, I thought I would see if I could find any other children to Elizabeth and John Baird Vaughan.

Surname Forename Gender Year Ref RD Name
VAUGHAN PATRICIA F 1950 644 / 7 / 2290 College
VAUGHAN JOHN CHRISTOPHE M 1952 644 / 5 / 85 Springburn
VAUGHAN PATRICK NOEL M 1952 644 / 5 / 86 Springburn
VAUGHAN BERNADETTE F 1958 644 / 4 / 2239 Springburn
VAUGHAN JOANNE PHYLLIS F 1993 609 / 677 Glasgow, Martha St
VAUGHAN MICHAEL JAMES M 1961 644 / 4 / 170 Springburn

As we have seen above, Patricia went on to marry Charles Lower Carberry in 1975. There seemed to be two children to this couple

Surname Forename Gender Year Ref RD Name
CARBERRY PAUL CHRISTOPHE M 1976 612 / 235 Glasgow, Martha St
CARBERRY LAURA F 1979 560 / 103 Bishopbriggs

The Christopher as a middle name could indicate a sibling to Patricia – perhaps John Christopher Vaughan born 1952 in Springburn was Patricia’s brother and since the next entry in the search results in for the very next entry in the RD Springburn book, Patrick Noel could have been a twin to John Christopher.

I looked at deaths for Elizabeth Mary Johnston’s father but there were too many John Johnston deaths to be sure of who was who but it looks like her mother died aged 86 in 1980 (RD Glasgow, Martha St)

Regarding John Baird Vaughan, I believe he is to be found at the 1921 Census

Surname Forename Year Gender Age Ref RD Name County / City
VAUGHAN JOHN 1921 M 1 644/5 31/ 6 Garngadhill Lanark

I found a likely deaths index entry for him

Surname Forename Age at death Mother's MS Gender Year Ref RD Name
VAUGHAN JOHN BAIRD 69 BAIRD M 1989 560 / 65 Bishopbriggs

Elizabeth died in 2006 aged 83.

Death of Elizabeth Mary Johnston or Neil or Vaughan

2006-09-04 DEA Elizabeth Mary Johnston wife of John McDonald Neil + John Baird Vaughan [[N676]]

Extract from an entry from the Register of Deaths in Scotland 2006
JOHNSTON, ELIZABETH MARY (Statutory registers, Deaths 560/119)
“Elizabeth Mary Vaughan, School Dinner Lady (Retired), Widow of John Vaughan Postman (Deceased [died] 4 September 2006 [at] 0400 hours [at] Lee Crescent, Bishopbriggs, G64 1QB [sex] F [aged] 83. [born] 2 Apr 1923 [parents] John Johnston Hammerman (Deceased) [and] Elizabeth Wright MS or Johnston (Deceased)
Cause/s of Death
(i) (a) Cerebral Metastasis (b) Bronchial Carcinoma [as cert by] G Murdoch [informant] P Carberry, Daughter. Registered in Glasgow 5 Sep 2006 [by] Andrea E C Gourley, Registrar”

Death of Elizabeth Mary Vaughan Scotland’s People Statutory Register of Deaths JOHNSTON, ELIZABETH MARY (Statutory registers, Deaths 560/119))